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Wars of the Roses English

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:28 pm
by grompix
I have just bought the Swordpoint rules and medieval lists having been impressed with what I've seen of the rule-set online. Not had a chance to play a game yet though. I have quite a large 28mm WotR collection which I hope will work OK with the Swordpoint rules.
I notice in the Medieval army list for WotR (Page 42) it says Mounted men-at-arms carry shields - now either this is a typo or perhaps a rule device to make this cavalry arm more defensible as clearly they didn't , at this period, carry shields.
I'm guessing it's a typo as the Burgundian army on the next page lists knights (essentially the same troop type) as not having shields.
I notice that Retinue archers are also classed as shielded in the WotR list. I know they sometimes carried a small buckler which may have been of some meagre defence in a knife-fight but since English mercenary longbowmen in the Burgundian list don't have it I'm assuming another typo perhaps?
Not having played the rules yet, I wonder if anyone can clear this up for me.
Many thanks in anticipation.
Chris ;)

Re: Wars of the Roses English

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:04 pm
by MartinG
The men-at-arms shield sis definitely a typo. I don't have access to the files at the moment but I think the retinue archers may be meant to have a buckler, in the rules this is the same as a shield for simplicity. I'll have a look when I'm back at work next week.

Re: Wars of the Roses English

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 2:01 pm
by grompix
Thanks for that Martin. I thought it might be a typo. Not convinced about the buckler being as good as a 'proper' shield though but I have yet to play the rules to see how it all pans out. I must admit I am quite impressed with the mechanics and concepts behind the design of this rule-system as a whole.
Chris ;)

Re: Wars of the Roses English

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:36 am
by strontiumdog
In the Wars of the Roses list under Retinue Foot it states that "Men-at-Arms or Billmen may form Combined Units with Longbowmen". Should this be Mixed Order instead, as in Combined Units archers are at the rear while in Mixed Order they are in the front, which is how they fought?

Cheers,
Dog.

Re: Wars of the Roses English

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:01 am
by MartinG
Yes it should be mixed order.

Re: Wars of the Roses English

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:05 am
by strontiumdog
Cheers :)

Re: Wars of the Roses English

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:19 pm
by Sapper
BTW Martin, the stats for cannon are missing from the WOTR list.

Re: Wars of the Roses English

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:02 am
by Paul7926
I've just picked up the rules and army list. I'd assumed that for WotR we just use the generic 'cannon' that is provided on other pages?

Re: Wars of the Roses English

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:27 am
by MartinG
Yes that is correct