New to sword point - looking for sample Selucid army

Bitesyurr
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New to sword point - looking for sample Selucid army

Postby Bitesyurr » Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:29 am

Hi All,

I have just got a copy of the rules, and am going to work on my friends to get them to trial the rules. I do not however have the army lists yet.

Would someone be able to suggest a 1000 point selucid army, and an early Achmeanid Persion list?

Many thanks

B.
Lancastrians
Ceasarian Romans (well a pile of boxes ATM)
Vikings (next year).

Always ready to roll a 12 for Cohesion!

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Wayne Richards
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Re: New to sword point - looking for sample Selucid army

Postby Wayne Richards » Wed Jul 25, 2018 12:22 pm

Hi B - sorry for the delayed response. Here are my suggestions regarding starter lists for the Seleucids/Persians
The Seleucid list covers 300BC to 75BC but some troop options are restricted to certain time frames within that. I should note that the list below is what I'd pick for a balanced forced rather than a "competition tuned" army. I've excluded elephants and scythed chariots to keep things simple whilst you are getting to know the basic rules.

Seleucid
1 x Strategos - 0 pts
5 x Taxiarch/Hipparch - 100pts

Cavalry (all cavalry are used to elephants)
1 x 6 Agema cavalry with Heavy armour, Half Barding, Superior fighters = 144 pts
1 x 5 Dahae/Scythian light cavalry, Bow, Superior Shooters, Parthian shot, skirmishers = 105 pts


Infantry
3 x 6 Phalangites with pike, light armour, shield, trained phalanx, close order = 360 pts (120pts each)
2 x 6 Thorakitai with Javelins, spear, light armour and shield, open order = 168 pts (84pts each)
1 x 6 Cretans with bow, shield, superior shooters, skirmishers = 72 pts
1 x 6 Mercenaries with bow, skirmishers = 36 pts

Total 985 pts


This gives you a solid battle line of close order phalanx with a couple of units of open order troops to cover your flanks and deal with difficult terrain. You have some good skirmishing missile fire to help earn a few momentum tokens before combat and a good unit of strike cavalry.


Hope this helps - cheers W.

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Re: New to sword point - looking for sample Selucid army

Postby Wayne Richards » Wed Jul 25, 2018 12:54 pm

Here is a suggestion for the Early Persians. Again, a simple balanced list rather than competition tuned. The list gives options to field the army of Cyrus or Xerxes. This one is for Cyrus

Commanders
1 x General = 0 pts
5 x Satrap = 100pts

Cavalry
1 x 6 Iranian Guard Cavalry with Spear, bow, light armour, half barding, superior shooters, superior fighters, stubborn = 162 pts
1 x 6 Iranian Heavy Cavalry with javelin, bow, light armour, half barding, superior shooters = 126pts
2 x 5 Iranian Light cavalry with bow, skirmishers = 160 pts (80 pts each)

Infantry
3 x 6 Iranian Line troops with spear and Spara and light armour = 360 pts (120 pts each)
2 x 6 Iranian Levy with bow, inferior fighters, inferior shooters, levies = 48pts (24 pts each)

Light troops
1 x 6 Phyrgians with Javelin, throwing spear and shield, open order, warband = 84 pts
1 x 6 slingers with sling, inferior fighters, skirmishers = 30 pts

990pts

This list gives the spara armed troops to provide a solid centre with some good supporting cavalry and a quantity of cheap levy.

Hope this helps - cheers W.

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Re: New to sword point - looking for sample Selucid army

Postby MartinG » Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:22 am

This is the Seleucid list we are going to offer as an army deal:
No. Type Equipment A D C Points Total ABP

1 Strategos +3 9 0

1 Taxiarch +2 +2 20 20

1 Hipparch +2 +2 20 20

6 Companions Heavy Armour, spear 4 9 25 150 2
Superior Fighters used to elephants
6 Line Cavalry Heavy armour, spear 4 7 19 114 2
Used to elephants
6 Light Cavalry Javelins, spear 5 7 20 120 2
Skirmishers. Parthian Shot. Used to elephants
6 Argyraspids Light armour,Pike, shield 5 8 32 192 3
Superior Fighters. Trained Phalanx. Stubborn.
6 Phalanx Light armour,Pike, shield 5 6 20 120 2
Trained Phalanx
6 Phalanx Light armour,Pike, shield 5 6 20 120 2
Trained Phalanx
6 Thureophoroi Spear, Javelin, shield 6 7 12 72 1
Open Order
3 Mercenaries Bow 7 6 18 1
Skirmishers, Inferior Fighters
1 Elephant One crewman 3 4 56 56
Superior Fighters. 5 7
It comes to 1002 points and is another balanced force.
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Re: New to sword point - looking for sample Selucid army

Postby Bitesyurr » Thu Jul 26, 2018 3:38 pm

Thanks guys, looks interesting!

Not particularily looking for a competition army, but something interesting.

Regards

B.
Lancastrians
Ceasarian Romans (well a pile of boxes ATM)
Vikings (next year).

Always ready to roll a 12 for Cohesion!


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